R&R

As I am about to head off on a weeks R&R today, and I wont be making any fresh posts during that time.
I thought I would leave you with a little thought.
After almost daily Howls for over a year from the Unionists, screaming that they were demanding the Scottish Government call a Referendum, the sooner the better. This week we heard Dave the Tory saying he was not fussed when the Referendum was held.
Followed yesterday by his dutiful LibDem Scottish Secretary lapdog Moore about facing rapidly at the call of his Masters voice, and proclaiming that the date of the Referendum was no barrier to agreement.

Couple the above with the Tory Lord Fraser speaking in support of an Independent Scotland in a forthcoming debate for a newspaper,concluding that Scottish Independence is now inevitable, and even Thatchers Dark Lord Micky Forsythe admitting on radio that it may be for the best after all, given that some of his senior English Tory colleagues are quietly expressing the view that they would be happier if Scotland left. We are left looking at something that resembles a slow retreat by the Tories.

Of course this may all be a bluff on their part, but It wouldn’t surprise me one bit that come Autumn 2014, they will already be entering into back room negotiations over the division of the spoils.

One thing for sure, is that their concession over the timing of the Referendum, leaves the Scottish Government having won another round of the phony war.
Still up for grabs is the issue of how many questions will be on the ballot paper. I suspect that the Unionists will be able to claim victory on this one. There will only be One question.
Neither they nor the SNP want a Devo MaxPlus option, so none will be provided. Nor could there be one provided. Any vote over increased powers short of Independence would have to be voted on and agreed by all people of the UK, not only Scots.
The vote at 16 question may be a red herring, and it has simply served as a bargaining chip against the question of the wording of the question, much as multi question chip could be placed against the timing question for leverage.

The Consultation exercise of Both Governments have now been concluded.
So from now on in, we are into the presentation of arguments stage.
The SNP will be kicking off with their campaign to persuade and enlighten the people of Scotland in short order, probably within the next two weeks.

The phony war is almost over, the real battle for hearts and minds begins now.

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About auldacquaintance

I am not a member of any political party. I am however a strong supporter of Scots Independence. Any views which I express in this Blog are purely my own. This Blog intends to be a place where I will be putting my views on Scots Independence. It will primarily concern itself with the upcoming Referendum In Scotland. However It will also be somewhat diverse in the range of day to day issues which are evident to me in modern day Scotland. Not all of it will be political, and indeed may take me off into avenues I am not even aware of yet. Please come and join in on this journey, and any comments are welcome provided they are not abusive! All the best from a new acquaintance! Rod
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13 Responses to R&R

  1. daibhidhdeux says:

    Back channels already open? Certainly, and I know this from former staffers, a section of the British embassy in Tokyo has been set aside for Scotland, and I believe this is the case globally. Additionally, I believe alternative sharing arrangements have been proffered by other friendly countries and organizations. Furthermore and if I were a betting man, I’d betcha UK CoBRA guys have addressed the issue – now almost certain likelihood – and have planned for it.

    I am very much looking forward to surrendering the UK one and uplifting my new, Scottish one.

    Enjoy your R&R. Best.

    • Morag says:

      Well maybe, but remember in the 1970s the old Royal High School was refurbished in anticipation of something that didn’t actually happen after the unionist Department of Dirty Tricks had had its way….

      • daibhidhdeux says:

        I do, indeed, and you make a very good point. I can only hope that lessons have been learned from this as well as the litany of other dirty tricks of the British state.

  2. So it has went the way it was thought it was going to go,and all the posturing was some of the fools trying to save face.By implication it also brings proof that the professional politician is not interested in the country,but only in his/her career.Who has saved their face? and have they really or is it a matter of opinion.I think if the issue of 16/17 year old voters is pushed,that too will happen,but once it does it will be for ever and not a bad thing if it does.We do have the chance to change these islands for good and for ever.The negotiations will have been like has been said ,already have the format laid out.Probably even who gets what is going to be very similar,and how much of the international law is going to have to be used? and how much of it will still be kept hidden so as to keep the face of a fool.

  3. bigbuachaille says:

    I had a look at the speech made by Baroness Warsi to the Scottish Tory Conference in March of this year.
    The usual noises were made: “stronger together” etc.
    What sticks out, however, if Peter Fraser’s remarks are to be understood as sincere, is the following phrase:
    “Many have pointed out that lopping Scotland off the electoral map could guarantee us future majorities at Westminster.”
    Is this behind the acceptance of “inevitability” by P. Fraser?
    Have a good break and #voteaye.

    • What did you expect of the most selfish breed of people ever created.They see Scottish independence as being an advantage to their party same as Labour do they are all for the party and not the country.

  4. Tris says:

    Well well… Mental Mickey is even coming round to the idea, is he?

    Are we sure it isn’t Tories doing what Tories do best… ie something backdoor and sneaky?

    To have someone like him do a volte face is incredible, and unlike Moore, he doesn’t depend on Cameron for his livelihood so is unlikely to have “come to heel”.

    I mean if it is for real it is incredibly good news.

    I think we probably could have had a second question. I don’t want devo max plus or whatever (because it would mean defence and foreign affairs being in English hands, which means American hands, with all the attendant cost), but it has seemed to be what a good section of the population want. As for it affe4cting the rest of the UK, yes, to an extent it would, but so did the original referendum on devolution, which was not offered to the English (and they accepted this as they believe that England is the UK is England).

    What the little islands and contiguous Celtic countries do, doesn’t matter much as they are insignificant.

    I guess we might have to be seen to be giving something up, so the 16+ may have to go… but it is interesting that the Secretary of State’s party was in favour of 16 year olds having the vote on constitutional change (voting systems), but against on constitutional change (independence). I wonder if he’d like to explain the intellectual acrobatics he had to go through to change his view to that extent?

  5. Tris says:

    Oh and…. Bonnes vacances….

  6. Mark Piggott says:

    As you say, the phoney war is over, the real battle for hearts and minds starts now, on Saturday 26th that battle moves to Pacific Quay, Glasgow too make our voices heard over the abuse of media power in Scotland, particularly by the BBC, if you’re back in time from your well earned rest please get in touch beforehand, we have use for those so good with words

  7. Shirley says:

    This must be the longest week’s R & R ever.

  8. Douglas Gregory says:

    Hope you are well Rod – your R and R seems to be an extended one?! – miss your blog (one of the best around.

    Doug
    Brisbane

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