United We Stand, Divided they Fall

As we start to gear up next year for the run up to the Independence referendum in 2014, already the Better Together cross party anti-Independence campaign led by Labours Alistair Darling has turned out to be not better together at all!
In fact it is falling into little pieces as it’s main players all set about running their own separate anti-Independence campaigns, all managed from London of course.
First we had the Scottish Conservatives, Conservative Friends of the Union Campaign, and now Johann Lamont has announced that Scottish Labour shortly Intend to follow suit early in the New Year with their own.
Their campaign is to be led by their Westminster Scottish Labour deputy Leader, Anas Sarwar MP.

Mr Sarwar had this to say:
“Labour’s vision for Scotland is different from that of the Tories or Lib Dems and that is why there is a recognition that we need a Labour voice making the case for wealth redistribution, social justice, tackling poverty and how this can be better achieved by working in partnership with England, Wales and Northern Ireland.

“Better Together has a job to do but it’s job comes to an end after the referendum. While people of all political parties and none will play their part working with Better Together, Scottish Labour also has a different and distinctive role to play. I look forward to bringing the Labour family together in this challenge.”

However I did notice dissenting voices their Left Foot Forward Site, with a contributor noting..
” jaime taurosangastre candelas

If the Labour “vision” is all about social justice, as opposed to the union, it has lost the argument from the first day. The argument is only, and all about the union, and why it is better than no union. It is existential and social justice comes second (because it can occur with either result), and so for this vote social justice is irrelevant.

Perhaps the Labour “vision” for the referendum should be immediately put down, like a dog with terminal cancerous growths, and instead a proper campaign be fought based upon what normal people will actually be voting upon (as opposed to what the dim-wits in Scottish Labour imagine).

Perhaps this is too strong.”

And a YES supporter noting.. ”

“Anas Sarwar MP will co-ordinate Labour’s Scottish referendum campaign.”

“Better Together has a job to do but it’s job comes to an end after the referendum.”

If Mr Sarwar’s job is to co-ordinate the referendum campaign, won’t it too come to an end with the referendum. Not a lot of point in campaigning after the referendum is over….”

Ohhh Dear..Not the most auspicious of starts for them then?

It should be noted..just for the record, as all of the Anti-Independence parties play the same trick. There is no such thing as a Scottish Labour party, a Scottish Conservative party, or a Scottish Liberal Democrat party. They are all sub branches of their London run parties.
Indeed Scottish labour have also recently announced they are looking for their new Scottish General Secretary, and he/she will be line managed and report to Labours Party Secretary in London.

And should you doubt what I say that there is no such thing as these Scottish parties, check out the Electoral Commissions Website for yourself, where you will find the following registered..

PP 768 Scottish Democratic Alliance Political Party Registered Great Britain 03/07/2009 N Y N N N
PP 130 Scottish Green Party Political Party Registered Great Britain 04/04/2001 N Y N N N
PP 102 Scottish National Party (SNP) Political Party Registered Great Britain 14/01/1999 N Y N N N
PP 46 Scottish Socialist Party Political Party Registered Great Britain 25/02/1999 N Y N N N
PP 809 Scottish Unionist Party Political Party Registered Great Britain 10/02/2010 N Y N N N
PP 617 Scottish Voice Political Party Registered Great Britain 02/02/2007 N Y N N N
PP 1917 The Scottish Reformists’ Party

But you will see no Scottish Labour, Scottish Conservative( The Scottish Unionist party is a different party entirely) and no Scottish Liberal Democrats.

So to put it in the language used by all of them when attacking Scottish Nationalists …If you can’t trust them to tell you the truth on something as simple and basic as this, what can you trust them on?.

I just hope that they Intend to fund their Separatist Better Together Campaigns on the same budgetary allowance as the YES campaign will be allowed. And please further note another major division…The Better Together campaign is Politically Led and organised…The Yes Campaign Is Inclusive of everyone..and not politically led.

United we stand….Divided they will fall.

Labour List: Labour campaign

Herald: Top official will answer to UK party

Electoral Commission: Scottish political parties

About auldacquaintance

I am not a member of any political party. I am however a strong supporter of Scots Independence. Any views which I express in this Blog are purely my own. This Blog intends to be a place where I will be putting my views on Scots Independence. It will primarily concern itself with the upcoming Referendum In Scotland. However It will also be somewhat diverse in the range of day to day issues which are evident to me in modern day Scotland. Not all of it will be political, and indeed may take me off into avenues I am not even aware of yet. Please come and join in on this journey, and any comments are welcome provided they are not abusive! All the best from a new acquaintance! Rod
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14 Responses to United We Stand, Divided they Fall

  1. jr1969mr says:

    One of the thing this will do in the final weeks to the referendum, allow three union representatives at debates, whereas before it could be argued for a balanced debate between Better NO and YES.

  2. Macart says:

    Wealth redistribution…………….?!?!

    Yep, we’ve seen Labour’s policy in action there, usually whenever there’s been an expenses scandal or a much needed and vitally important new parking facility built in Glasgow. 🙂

  3. Boorach says:

    Given a YES vote in 2014 one assumes that only political parties registered as Scottish will be permitted to put forward candidates for the 2016 elections and such parties would not be allowed to raise funds abroad!!

    Could get interesting watching the rush for registration, members and funds!

  4. Tris says:

    That’s a very interesting point Boorach. We had better watch the regster for new parties being established.
    It was I who who wrote: “Anas Sarwar MP will co-ordinate Labour’s Scottish referendum campaign.”

    “Better Together has a job to do but it’s job comes to an end after the referendum.”

    If Mr Sarwar’s job is to co-ordinate the referendum campaign, won’t it too come to an end with the referendum. Not a lot of point in campaigning after the referendum is over….”

    Ohhh Dear..Not the most auspicious of starts for them then?

    I just can’t imagine why they need two Labour people running the same campaign. Unless, of course, Darling is useless.

  5. Arbroath1320 says:

    Just being a wee bit cheeky here.

    When we get round to having any debates perhaps the YES camp should demand that they will only debate with SCOTTISH parties. 😀

    I’d love to hear Lamont, Davidson and Rennoie try and claim to be leaders of Scottish parties particularly as we all knmow there are no such parties. A wee bit of confusion in the unionist ranks methinks? :@D

  6. Boorach says:

    Nice one Arbroath!

    Aye Macart, they’ve been at it for years ever since Tony took them over and merged with the torys….. problem is it’s all been redistributed upwards.

  7. Boorach says:

    Could be that anas is looking to raise his profile in Scotland, after all, given a YES vote in 2014, he won’t have a constituency to support his ‘claims’.

    Watch your back johan I think I see a coup on the horizon. Et tu anas?

  8. dubbyside says:


    I think the coup is coming sooner than that. Given the train wreck that Johan is and how most people think that she is far worse than Iain Gray, it would not surprise me if they tried to get Anas into Holyrood in 2013.

    Just count the times he has been on Newsnight North Briton compared to the invisible woman. Leader in North Briton? don’t make me laugh.

    The problem for Labour of course is where do they find a safe seat for him to win.

  9. Macart says:

    Wouldn’t surprise me Boorach. Mr Sarwar strikes me as an ambitious wee soul. Wouldn’t surprise me, post referendum, to find that suddenly Mr Sarwar supported independence all along. If ye catch ma drift. 🙂

    • jr1969mr says:

      I agree with you Macart, the lure of being the first Prime Minister of Scotland must be causing a lot of angst amongst the unionist snout in the trough brigade.

      • Macart says:

        Gotta say JR, that after the year of team GB we’ve just had, things are definitely looking up. They gave it their best shot with heavily politicising the jubilee and the Olympics, but we’re still here and gaining ground. The opposition attacks have been becoming increasingly wilder and more desperate as their tried and trusted past methods fail. At this point more than one must be wondering just what the next career move is????

        Prime Minister of Scotland doesn’t sound so bad at that point really. PM of a cash rich, debt light, progressive northern European nation? Problem for them is how do you square the circle of going back on all of the fear and lies you’ve peddled as part of a party line for several years? It wisnae me, a big boy telt me tae dae it. 🙂

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