Muddy Waters

In amongst all the political noise making, accusations and counter accusations of the politicians playing their political football over Independence, once we the ordinary public manage to see clear water in amongst their mud slinging, there is only some simple facts that we need to know. Will we be better off with Independence or not? What will it mean for our daily lives, and do we have brighter future under Independence?

Most ordinary people couldn’t give a stuff about economics, arguments over defence, whether we are in or out of NATO, and not in the slightest bit worried about currency sharing.
All the political posturing, entertaining as it might be for politicians, just leaves them stone cold!

The questions they want answered, in as simple terms as possible are these….

Will my pension be ok? Will I have enough to live on? Will we be better off when we go to the shops? Will our lads and lassies still be coming back from foreign fields in body bags in still more pointless wars? Will we have more opportunities for work? Will I be properly looked after if I become Ill or disabled? Will those not in employment be given opportunities to lead them to gainful employment? Will I be able to take my holidays without it costing a Kings ransom?

Questions that they might ask of those advocating the union….

Can you guarantee us that things are going to get better than the dross we have?
Can you promise that should I fall Ill that we will still have a National Health service worthy of the name for us to go to?
Can you tell me why zero hours contracts, and suspension of benefits for the slightest excuse are fair?
What are you going to do to make sure that MPs stop ripping us off with their expenses while we suffer?
I live next door to Faslane, can you please remove the nuclear time bombs?
Can you ensure with absolute guarantee that we get a fair standard of living up here please?
What are you going to do about making work pay in order to encourage people to aspire to better lives?
Will you ensure that our children don’t get charged extortionate fees in higher education and are not weighed down with debt on finishing their courses?

These are only a small example of some of the questions we can ask Better together, there are many more.

What should we be asking of those advocating Independence?

In what way will Independence make me personally better off?
Can you tell us what you think that Independence will really do for us?
What sort of vision can we have for the future If we should become Independent again?
Will we be able to have better opportunities in an Independent Scotland than we currently have in the UK?
What sort of future can an Independent Scotland bring? Will it just be a cut down version of what we have with Westminster, or are you talking about something different, and if different…how and why can it be different?
Will we have more of a say about what happens to us, or will Edinburgh just become the new London?

In my own personal opinion I feel that we are all being let down badly by all sides in this debate thus far. Ordinary folks feel that they are being talked at, not engaged with.
The politicians are at it, the media is complicit, and they are all playing their old silly games.
The British government absolutely refuses to engage, the prime minister will not even debate the issue, and the media let them away with it all. Indeed the press and tv positively encourages the claptrap.

We the public want real discussion, real alternatives, not empty promises.
Let the people speak!
The independence campaign needs to focus on aspiration and alternatives and the betterment of peoples lives
The Better Together campaign needs to stop pointless scaremongering and start addressing real reasons for why we are better together, and unless they do, then we can only gather that there is no good reason for us to remain tied to a dysfunctional and unequal union.

So lets hear about vision and opportunities and the betterment of peoples lives.
Not airy fairy bunkum which we cannot give a bloody toss about!

About auldacquaintance

I am not a member of any political party. I am however a strong supporter of Scots Independence. Any views which I express in this Blog are purely my own. This Blog intends to be a place where I will be putting my views on Scots Independence. It will primarily concern itself with the upcoming Referendum In Scotland. However It will also be somewhat diverse in the range of day to day issues which are evident to me in modern day Scotland. Not all of it will be political, and indeed may take me off into avenues I am not even aware of yet. Please come and join in on this journey, and any comments are welcome provided they are not abusive! All the best from a new acquaintance! Rod
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4 Responses to Muddy Waters

  1. Reider O'Doom says:

    I am a regular reader of yours, and many of your recent posts have been excellent. However, I am a bit surprised by some of the things you assert here.
    You know, as well as anyone, that the extent to which the mainstream media in Scotland, as in many countries, is very much a part of the Establishment. As such, they, in times of ‘national crisis’, will spout the view of the Establishment and will slant the news agenda accordingly. The YES campaign have enormous difficulties in trying to get the facts out there for people to see. If they are printed at all it is as a poor summary or a footnote, with everything they say roundly rubbished by Better Together. The newspapers and broadcasters do everything they can to shut down debate and stop people debating, too.
    Let me give you an example of this. A few weeks ago I was on the Daily Record website looking at their article on Breadline Britain. In the comments section I asked, in a very reasonable manner, how the Record could still call itself “Scotland’s Newspaper” when it supported a union that was perpetrating this kind of hardship, through its austerity measures, on ordinary Scottish families. The result was that my comment was removed and I find that I am now unable to comment on their website. I have been censored and barred for asking a question. This is what the YES campaign and even the SNP/Scottish Government are up against every day.
    Just you wait and see how the White Paper, due out this month, is misrepresented and misreported in the Scottish press. Just you wait and see how nonsensical counter ‘arguments’ from Better Together and other Naysayers are given prominence. Please don’t go blaming the YES campaign for not giving us enough information. Blame the Scottish (Establishment) mainstream media for blocking, censorship, obfuscation and downright propaganda.

  2. Reider O'Doom says:

    PS. Your Blogroll includes the excellent Business for Scotland ( With the Scottish Government’s White Paper not yet out you can find all the fact and figures you require there.
    Why don’t you do a posting that does some sign-posting to the various sites out there that actually do provide high quality, robust data and information. There are quite a few of them now.

    Nil desperandum carburundum illegitami.

    • It is clear to me that you have entirely missed the thrust of this article, not once did I mention the YES campaign in it.

      I was referring much more to what non politically minded people want to hear and want to speak about. What are the basics that matter to them in their daily lives, far more needs to be heard of these issues.

  3. Reider O'Doom says:

    “What should we be asking of those advocating Independence?” and ” we are all being let down badly by all sides in this debate”.

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but is YES Scotland not advocating independence? Is it not one of the sides in this debate?

    Also, please see my second post re. the blogs and web-based news sites out there that need help in being brought to the attention of the wider public. And we’re only a fortnight way from the Scottish Government’s White Paper being published.
    The information IS out there, and even with the Scottish MSM trying to hide it under an avalanche of bull it will get out to the people prior to the referendum. We’ve all just got to keep sign-posting, forwarding and making the positive argument ourselves. Sites like yours are crucial to this. Keep up the good work because there’s still a long way to go.

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