Looking back into the annals of History, time and time again, we see the perceived victors as being the ones who kept to organisation and unity, while spreading and engendering discord amongst the vanquished.
“United we stand, divided we fall”
Looking back to the time of Culloden and the 2nd Jacobite rebellion, At what seemed to be the point of success,on the outskirts of London. The Jacobites squabbled and fell out amongst themselves and went home. This allowed the British to regroup and eventually slaughter the Jacobites at Culloden.
Lets not get caught up with the politics of the time, which was no Scotland v England thing, but rather the dubious inheritance of monarchy mixed with religion, with many Scots Clans fighting on the Governments side against the Jacobite Clans.
Scotland was utterly divided by this point in time, and the result of all this Scots squabbling led to the banning of the Gaelic language, the Kilt, and the pipes as a result.
To this day in Scotland, there are still those fighting over religious adherence, and the monarchy dispute between William of Orange and the Stewarts, many not even realising that the Scots people were all cannon fodder for the established order.
The first and second Jacobite rebellions both took place within 40 years of the Acts of Union in 1707, the first of them a mere 8 years after.
When we look back at the horrors created by the dissolving of the Clan system, and the many Clan chiefs who stole their own peoples land off them, and became Lords of the British establishment, while helping to oversee atrocities against their own people, we can see clearly how the established order worked, and continues to work. It works through division.
So what on earth has this all to do with a possible Indyref2 you might ask?
Lets look back on our most recent time line and see how it shapes up?
The British establishment, with all its corruption, has been at Its weakest ever in Scotland since 1707, when the people had no vote.
The YES referendum was within a whisker of succeeding in 2014, despite the best efforts of the British government, their Labour and LibDem lackies,and the united unionist press and media. They were being crushed by an ethusiastic and popular peoples movement using Social Media and street presence to garner confidence and engagement amongst the people.
History will show that the British Establishments lies and Vows and empty promises, succeeded in winning the battle, but in doing so suffered unexpected casualities.
Far from YES being defeated, the opposite happened, and people joined the SNP in their droves, resulting in the almost complete wipe out of Tories, Labour and LibDems in the 2015 General election.
Further results of the YES campaign, also led to an Increase of membership for the Scottish Green party, some modicum of extra support for both the SSP and Tommy Sheridans Solidarity, and the eventual creation of a new party rising from the Radical Independence campaign, which amalgamated with the SSP to create RISE.
With Independence supporters all in good fettle entering into this years 2016 Scottish Government elections and the SNP again showing highly in the polls, with even projections that they may gain the vast majority of constituency seats all appeared to be going well and looking good for another SNP majority government in Holyrood, and all seemed well in the YES side too.
It is at this point, that things started to go somewhat amiss…
Some stirring up of conjecture, by the Labour supporting Electoral Reform Society,( who have said this about the Tory supporting David Torrance, “David Torrance brings his usual strong ….. incisive and clear writing combined with the balanced and unbiased journalism we have come to expect from his work. “) Nuff said!!
rewording a report from Prof John Curtis, and reproduced in the Herald, giving thr impression that it would be advisable to ditch the SNP for the List ballot, in favour of the Greens, Rise and Solidarity….All hell has broken loose!
What was a fairly together YES alliance of sorts, has been ripped assunder… with more and more vitriolic attacks on each other on Social media by the respective party supporters, and cheered on by the likes of Bella Caledonia, who seem to have it particularly in for the SNP, and are doing nothing to stop trolling on their facebook group page…
A combination of the less educated, the gullible, and the partisan on all sides are threatening the possibility of not having a majority SNP Scottish Government, and as such putting an end to Indy2 before it even getting off the ground!
The animosity and vitriol and trolling on all sides is alarming and counter productive in the extreme!
I had previously posited that In order to make some minimal gain, that those of a mind to do so, in regions that had a perticultarly strong Green support, that it would be worth voting Green on the List, but voting Rise or Solidarity with projected 1% support across all areas was self defeating and possibly destructive from a YES perspective.
That however, would depend on a degree of coordination and cooperation between parties to achieve a positive outcome… It is clear that no such cooperation exists, and thus it is extremely foolish to consider tactical voting. Rather it is better to simply vote for what you want, and who you want, and leave the rest up to the combined will of the people.
As things stand, If people persist on damaging their own Independence supporting sides for tribal political gain, we risk creating so much animosity and ill will, that the enthusiasm and willingness of the YES campaign cannot be reproduced.
Bearing in mind also, that not all those who are trolling without compunction on sites such as Bella Caledonia, may be doing so because they support Independence, but rather are for the British State! It is an ideal vehicle to take the negativity of others and encourage them to disruptive ends….
And thus at worst… An Independence movement divided, and warring with itself becomes ineffectual, and YES2 becomes our new Culloden!
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BELOW: My posting on leaving said Bella Caledonia…..and a classic case of the trolling that is going on there and in other Indy pages!
I have decided to leave this group..I am utterly disgusted with the behaviour and attitudes of some so called supporters of Independence on here.. Whatever good will was built up during Indyref…a number of you are destroying it, and this can only bode ill for any further working towards Indyref2 …. Common ground has been replaced by bitterness, recrimination and tribalism …
If this is an example of what might happen should we gain Independence…I think I would rather emigrate!
This is not an admin controlled site, it’s an admin monitored site. Subjects change as do moods. If ppl REALLY bother you then block them. If they abuse you then report them. If they post things that you don’t like then just man the hell up and debate your own point. …See More
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The Scottish left have been tearing themselves apart for many years,its just their nature.The Scottish left jumped on the YES campaign for their own ends and have a different agenda from we who really do seek independence.They have a problem with agreeing and sticking to an agreement,they all have pathetic egos and lack the intellect to realise what they do,as its always somebody else’s fault.
The Scottish left have been tearing themselves apart for many years,its just their nature.The Scottish left jumped on the YES campaign for their own ends and have a different agenda from we who really do seek independence.They have a problem with agreeing and sticking to an agreement,they all have pathetic egos and lack the intellect to realise what they do,as its always somebody else’s fault.
Then we have the moles as well as the trolls,out to scupper anything that stands in the way of the British State,I am slowly starting to believe they want another uprising like Ireland had to do,Ireland was also cheated in their plebiscite and led to the division of the country.