A few too many shandys

Most of the time I find myself in agreement with Stephen Noon, chief strategist for the Yes Campaign. His articles and analyses are more often than not spot on.
However, today after reading his contribution to the Scotsmans Scotland on Sunday,wondering if they have kidnapped him and replaced him with a unionist clone, Or whether he has been fed mind altering substances? Or just been overdoing the shandy somewhat, and Is full of love for all mankind and wants to tell them all so?

I am sure that anyone observing my face as I was reading his article would have seen a whole range of puzzled bewildered expressions, followed by a decisive shake of my head in disbelief.

Here is what Stephen had to say, with some observations from myself in response.


“BELIEF in Scottish Labour is a big part of winning independence. That statement may seem strange to some of those caught up in the tribal battle that is Scottish parliamentary politics, but it is also the truth.

Recent events in Falkirk should not divert us from the place a vibrant Scottish Labour Party, released from some of the diversions and difficulties created by its London link, will play in our nation’s future. In an independent Scotland, Scottish Labour and Westminster Labour will be two very different parties. To give just one example, I don’t believe a Scottish Labour Party, in the first independence elections in 2016, would choose to follow Ed Balls’ “match the Tories” austerity agenda.

One of the tactics of the No campaign is to present the choice in 2014 as, somehow, being about Alex Salmond and the SNP. But the reality is that Scottish Labour, and the values that sustain and drive that party (values shared by many of us in Scotland), will have an important role to play if we are to make an independent Scotland a success. What is encouraging for all of us on the Yes side of the debate, including a growing Labour for Independence group, is that the official Labour Party in Scotland, while understandably arguing their position powerfully today, will work equally hard for Scotland if and when there is a Yes vote. And that goes for the other No parties too.

The Labour benches at Holyrood have seen an inflow of energetic new talent following the 2011 result, as has been recognised in Johann Lamont’s first front bench reshuffle. I’ve no doubt the Labour Holyrood team would be deepened and broadened further by the arrival of some of the very best of the Westminster party after the 2016 election. I think of men and women like Douglas Alexander, a man whose experience in governmental roles at a UK level would make him a powerful voice for Scotland internationally (whether as a minister or in opposition), or Margaret Curran, whose passion for social justice, sometimes frustrated I’m sure by the political balance at a UK level, would make her an excellent champion for greater equality in the more conducive atmosphere of the Scottish Parliament.

Up and coming Labour talent, including current MP Willie Bain, Glasgow councillor Stephen Curran or Victoria Jamieson, who has been chair of the party, could sit well alongside the likes of Jenny Marra, Kezia Dugdale and Drew Smith, as they move their way up the career ladder.

Following a Yes vote, former First Minister, Henry McLeish, and former Labour leader, Wendy Alexander, would bring unique and valuable insights, and there are a host of other senior Labour thinkers, such as Baroness Kennedy and Susan Deacon who will bring their wisdom to bear. The experience and understanding of Jim Murphy in defence and Europe, would give the Scottish team access to invaluable knowledge as we sought to establish ourselves as central and active partners in the EU and in the agreements with the UK on things like the appropriate sharing of military assets.

Labour politicians, alongside SNP politicians, alongside people of all political persuasions and none, will be part of building and delivering an independent Scotland if there is a Yes vote. It is an exciting prospect and one that few have the privilege to participate in – the birth (or more appropriately, re-birth) of an independent state: we are a fortunate generation to have this opportunity.

After the referendum, Labour’s role is in some ways the most crucial, given that it is in all our interests for Scotland to move forward with energy and unity to 2016. The way they respond to a Yes vote will help determine the sort of independent country Scotland will be.

As with any politician in all parties, and indeed as with any human, there are strengths and weaknesses, and I can imagine some people grinding their teeth as they read the above. But the key point is that the independence pool of talent isn’t just the SNP or the Green Party. And just because I am SNP, doesn’t mean I can’t recognise and applaud the contribution from Scottish Labour if and when the country chooses a different, independent path.

The range of expertise and experience that will be available to an independent Scotland is bigger than many of us first assume and it includes not only these frontline opposition politicians, but also people who currently work delivering defence or welfare or diplomatic services as servants of the UK and who will be there to do the same for Scotland when the time comes. Similarly, there are people at the highest levels of business, the trades union movement, third sector and academia who will do all they can to get our new independent nation off to the best possible start.

Scots have run the Empire, we’ve been integral to the machinery of government of the United Kingdom, and, I’ve heard it said, are disproportionately represented within EU institutions. It’s not only in terms of wealth and our national finances that Scotland has firm foundations for success as an independent nation: in politics and government, there is no doubt, Scotland’s got what it takes too. «

Stephen Noon is the chief strategist for the Yes Campaign”

Stephen talks of Labour values and beliefs, which values and beliefs? The only ones I have seen them retaining are not ones which I would value. By that statement, I am not referring to the ordinary labour member or voter, who do hold onto what Labour used to stand for, pre Blair.
I am talking about the dishonesty and the avarice, the greed for power and status, the cronyism and sell outs of those who have climbed the Labour ladder. When a baboon climbs a tree,all its shows to you is its arse!

He talks in such glowing terms of Labours new Holyrood team, and welcomes the possible arrival of Douglas Alexander, the return of Wendy, and extols the virtues of Margaret Curran and Jim Murphy.
Its almost a party political broadcast of how wonderful Labour are!

I am only left surprised, after all his name dropping, that he didn’t include that purveyor of good humour and gentle behaviour, Ian Davidson.

What sort of strategy is this?

Labour in Scotland has become a joke waiting to be told, after missing the punchline.
I would say that they are fast becoming unelectable, has Stephen been hiding in a darkened closet somewhere?

Yes I do see a future for Labour in Scotland, but not as Stephen does. The current incumbents of the name are not worthy of it.
In my opinion, they will have to have that root and branch back to basics they kept going on about, but have never as yet delivered.
Their hope lies with those of the likes of Labour for Independence, but in order for any real change, they are going to have to get shot of a whole swaith of careerists such as Murphy before they will make any headway, and there is a hell of a lot of dross to cut through.

I can only assume that this article is a misguided attempt to get more Labour supporter on side, otherwise it makes little to no sense at all.

What we do not need from YES Scotland is the same old tired politics being encouraged, with the same system, and the same old faces.
We should be seeing VISION, about what is possible, the sort of things that we can do, or think about, the things which we can never do as Country in thrall of Westminster politics and politicians and political parties.
We need genuine aspirations for our people…..Not just more of the same old tired political guff.

We need fresh ideas,we need people engaged in thoughts of better future, we need to think of new ways, we need to have imagination, we need to encourage people to think they can have real change in their lives,communities and country.
If all they are being offered is the same old, same old.

Well, frankly….Why Bother?

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I am not a member of any political party. I am however a strong supporter of Scots Independence. Any views which I express in this Blog are purely my own. This Blog intends to be a place where I will be putting my views on Scots Independence. It will primarily concern itself with the upcoming Referendum In Scotland. However It will also be somewhat diverse in the range of day to day issues which are evident to me in modern day Scotland. Not all of it will be political, and indeed may take me off into avenues I am not even aware of yet. Please come and join in on this journey, and any comments are welcome provided they are not abusive! All the best from a new acquaintance! Rod
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8 Responses to A few too many shandys

  1. I think the shandy one is out ,the sleeper one is in,or is he trying to encourage some big Labour folk to join in with YES.I am not sure but trust could waver for him.

  2. Stevie says:

    It’s clear that he is trying to invite Labour people on board; making it easy for them to join ship but his effusive rhetoric is more importantly aimed at the unions who are now open to considering independence as an option and who will be more willing if they see Scotland as being in tune with their views.
    The Jimmy Reid foundation (common weal) project is also another bridge being offered. Noon never does anything without a reason – it’s clear that the average Labour voter won’t read the Scotsman but the average union rep will. At least that’s my take on it. When Noon speaks, one should listen – a smart chap. The good thing is that if the trade unions can come on board with the common weal then we will both be heading in the same direction ( a direction I’ve personally favoured for a long time).

  3. Marian says:

    Mischief making by Stephen Noon methinks!

  4. panda paws says:

    I’ve with the view that this is a message to Labour voters that independence isn’t about the SNP. And a subtle dig at editors/journos that seem to suggest an independent Scotland would be forever Alex’s.

  5. Peter A Bell says:

    I can’t get past the apostrophe catastrophe.

  6. pa_broon74 says:

    I think its aimed at Labour people, nothing more.

    I mean it had to be, putting ‘Willie Bain’ and ‘Talent’ in the same sentence is from the same reality bending paradigm Better Together use when concocting their bullshittery. Presumably, Stephen was writing it on the basis that if Labour etc actually believe the shite they shovel, perhaps shoveling shite is in fact the way to reach them.

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